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	<description>New understandings of the mind and of madness can open new doors to full recovery - thoughts from way outside the straightjacket of the &#34;medical model.&#34;  By Ron Unger LCSW</description>
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		<title>By: Listening for the Truth Within Delusional Beliefs: a Key yet Rare Mental Health Method</title>
		<link>http://recoveryfromschizophrenia.org/cbt-for-psychosis-trauma-psychosis-handouts/comment-page-1/#comment-58150</link>
		<dc:creator>Listening for the Truth Within Delusional Beliefs: a Key yet Rare Mental Health Method</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the better psychological approaches, like CBT for psychosis, or Open Dialogue, professionals take an interest in what consumers say, and they don&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the better psychological approaches, like CBT for psychosis, or Open Dialogue, professionals take an interest in what consumers say, and they don&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Unger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Unger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 23:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When people just don&#039;t seem to be doing very much, that gets called a &quot;negative symptom&quot; - medical model people see it as caused by the &quot;illness&quot; but CBT people see it has having possibly a number of causes, and as possibly reversible.  

Here&#039;s a brief video of Aaron Beck discussing the research he participated in where they helped people who had severe negative symptoms make very significant improvements. Simple methods, but really important in overcoming severe demoralization by people who had been hospitalized etc. for years. Beck and his team started with this research thinking that people could function at a higher level despite their apparent deficits in basic mental abilities - however, not surprisingly to me, they found that once the people were functioning at a higher level, those deficits in mental abilities seemed to themselves be shrinking.

http://www.beckinstituteblog.org/2011/12/cognitive-behavioral-therapy-for-schizophrenia/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When people just don&#8217;t seem to be doing very much, that gets called a &#8220;negative symptom&#8221; &#8211; medical model people see it as caused by the &#8220;illness&#8221; but CBT people see it has having possibly a number of causes, and as possibly reversible.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a brief video of Aaron Beck discussing the research he participated in where they helped people who had severe negative symptoms make very significant improvements. Simple methods, but really important in overcoming severe demoralization by people who had been hospitalized etc. for years. Beck and his team started with this research thinking that people could function at a higher level despite their apparent deficits in basic mental abilities &#8211; however, not surprisingly to me, they found that once the people were functioning at a higher level, those deficits in mental abilities seemed to themselves be shrinking.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.beckinstituteblog.org/2011/12/cognitive-behavioral-therapy-for-schizophrenia/" rel="nofollow">http://www.beckinstituteblog.org/2011/12/cognitive-behavioral-therapy-for-schizophrenia/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Y.Z.</title>
		<link>http://recoveryfromschizophrenia.org/cbt-for-psychosis-trauma-psychosis-handouts/comment-page-1/#comment-34168</link>
		<dc:creator>Y.Z.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ron, got to tell I love the work you do, do have anything, any articles on behavioral activation and getting people with so-called &quot;schizophrenia&quot; &quot;psychosis&quot; to accomplish like basic ADL&#039;s? Much appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ron, got to tell I love the work you do, do have anything, any articles on behavioral activation and getting people with so-called &#8220;schizophrenia&#8221; &#8220;psychosis&#8221; to accomplish like basic ADL&#8217;s? Much appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Unger</title>
		<link>http://recoveryfromschizophrenia.org/cbt-for-psychosis-trauma-psychosis-handouts/comment-page-1/#comment-17561</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Unger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 17:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cheryl,

A few suggestions that could help:

Ask him about his reasons for not going, and really listen to him about them before you start providing any ideas aimed at getting him to reconsider.

It&#039;s possible he would be open to going to therapy if he thought a really understanding person was available, but just doesn&#039;t believe this can happen.  So you could ask him about what type of person he might be willing to talk to if such a person were available.  Then see if you can find someone like that.

Suggest he consider just meeting with a therapist, or possibly with you and the therapist, just to talk about how therapy might go and the pros and cons of it, if he were to decide to actually engage in therapy.

Or you could tell him that you want to do family therapy, invite him along, if he doesn&#039;t go, just go yourself and explore in more depth what might work.

All this presumes you actually have access to a therapist who knows how to work with the sorts of experiences that get called &quot;psychotic&quot; - which unfortunately is not true in many areas.  Wishing you well with your son and your family.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cheryl,</p>
<p>A few suggestions that could help:</p>
<p>Ask him about his reasons for not going, and really listen to him about them before you start providing any ideas aimed at getting him to reconsider.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible he would be open to going to therapy if he thought a really understanding person was available, but just doesn&#8217;t believe this can happen.  So you could ask him about what type of person he might be willing to talk to if such a person were available.  Then see if you can find someone like that.</p>
<p>Suggest he consider just meeting with a therapist, or possibly with you and the therapist, just to talk about how therapy might go and the pros and cons of it, if he were to decide to actually engage in therapy.</p>
<p>Or you could tell him that you want to do family therapy, invite him along, if he doesn&#8217;t go, just go yourself and explore in more depth what might work.</p>
<p>All this presumes you actually have access to a therapist who knows how to work with the sorts of experiences that get called &#8220;psychotic&#8221; &#8211; which unfortunately is not true in many areas.  Wishing you well with your son and your family&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://recoveryfromschizophrenia.org/cbt-for-psychosis-trauma-psychosis-handouts/comment-page-1/#comment-17556</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My son is newly diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.  He is in denial and has been extremely difficult to deal with.  He has finally agreed to take a low dose of neuroleptic (Abilify) for three weeks.  I don&#039;t know if this is the right route to take, but his behavior is becoming more erratic and he is refusing any type of therapy.  I would rather he not take any sort of meds, any suggestions for getting him to agree to therapy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son is newly diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.  He is in denial and has been extremely difficult to deal with.  He has finally agreed to take a low dose of neuroleptic (Abilify) for three weeks.  I don&#8217;t know if this is the right route to take, but his behavior is becoming more erratic and he is refusing any type of therapy.  I would rather he not take any sort of meds, any suggestions for getting him to agree to therapy?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Unger</title>
		<link>http://recoveryfromschizophrenia.org/cbt-for-psychosis-trauma-psychosis-handouts/comment-page-1/#comment-9750</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Unger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Randy,

I appreciate your sense of needing help in order to help others.  But it wasn&#039;t clear from your message exactly what kind of help you were looking for.

I think it&#039;s best when mental health workers are part of a team that is all committed to work together to find non-drug options where possible, as does the Open Dialogue approach.  Even if you don&#039;t work directly with a team that believes in such an approach, it can help to have supportive relationships with people who themselves have some interest in a more psychological approach to the problems that get labeled &quot;psychosis&quot; or &quot;schizophrenia.&quot;  Being part of a study group or professional organization like ISPS-US http://www.isps-us.org/ can help, as it puts you in contact with people who are going through similar things.

If you were looking for specific information, I don&#039;t know if I could help you or not, I would need to know what you are looking for......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Randy,</p>
<p>I appreciate your sense of needing help in order to help others.  But it wasn&#8217;t clear from your message exactly what kind of help you were looking for.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s best when mental health workers are part of a team that is all committed to work together to find non-drug options where possible, as does the Open Dialogue approach.  Even if you don&#8217;t work directly with a team that believes in such an approach, it can help to have supportive relationships with people who themselves have some interest in a more psychological approach to the problems that get labeled &#8220;psychosis&#8221; or &#8220;schizophrenia.&#8221;  Being part of a study group or professional organization like ISPS-US <a href="http://www.isps-us.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.isps-us.org/</a> can help, as it puts you in contact with people who are going through similar things.</p>
<p>If you were looking for specific information, I don&#8217;t know if I could help you or not, I would need to know what you are looking for&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the work you have put into puttin all of this together.  I currently have the opportunity workign with three young individuals that have more recently been shoing symptoms of schizophrenia.  I rally dont want to screw them up, and do not see that meds are the only solution.  But, I need help.  Any suggestions.  RA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the work you have put into puttin all of this together.  I currently have the opportunity workign with three young individuals that have more recently been shoing symptoms of schizophrenia.  I rally dont want to screw them up, and do not see that meds are the only solution.  But, I need help.  Any suggestions.  RA</p>
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		<title>By: jezreel</title>
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		<dc:creator>jezreel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 12:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the info...=)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the info&#8230;=)</p>
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