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	<title>Comments on: How stress can make you stupid, &amp; then stressing about that can make you crazy!</title>
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		<title>By: Marian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW: Even if your post looks at it from a different angle than mine, I think they add to each other, not exclude or contradict each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW: Even if your post looks at it from a different angle than mine, I think they add to each other, not exclude or contradict each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Marian</title>
		<link>http://recoveryfromschizophrenia.org/2009/08/how-stress-can-make-you-stupid-then-stressing-about-that-can-make-you-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-879</link>
		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this had me immediately recall an article about &lt;a href=&quot;http://infolink2003.elbo.dk/PsyNyt/Forsider/pn0309.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Cognitive Remediation for Schizophrenia&quot;&lt;/a&gt; (original in Danish) in the journal of the Danish Psychological Association, quote:

&quot;Even if Emil Kraepelin already a hundred years ago became aware of the fact, that cognitive dysfunctionalities are remarkable in patients with schizophrenia, this aspect was assumed to be a side effect of the medication for a long time. Yet, newer evidence points to that cognitive dysfunctionality is a core aspect of the illness, and characteristic for most of the patients.&quot; And: &quot;Dysfunctionalities in concentration and memory are regarded biological markers of schizophrenia, since they are detectable long before the onset of the illness, and can be observed in family members of patients with schizophrenia.&quot; (my translation)

Ah, so, &quot;schizophrenics&quot; are born more or less bird-brained morons. No need to further investigate, what maybe causes the cognitive dysfunctionalities: After declaring stupidity a &quot;biomarker&quot; of &quot;schizophrenia&quot;, the article goes on to present techniques for psychologists to, in spite of the stupidity, efficiently get the &quot;Take your meds!&quot;-message rammed into the bird-brained morons&#039; heads. 

Well, and no need to say, that reading such a load of bs made me blow a fuse. I do have an ego, and it tends to react somewhat sensitive to being insulted. So, I wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://diffthoughts.blogspot.com/2009/03/are-psychologists-really-that-stupid.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a piece on the matter&lt;/a&gt;, quote: 

&quot;It is totally and completely beyond me how a psych&lt;i&gt;ologist&lt;/i&gt; can miss the point, that stress, &lt;i&gt;stress&lt;/i&gt;, yeah, like in &lt;i&gt;trauma&lt;/i&gt;, indeed has the capacity to reduce the stressed individual&#039;s cognitive abilities. Dysfunctional communication and abuse create stress. And thus cognitive dysfunctionalities in addition. Which is true for &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; involved individuals, also family members, who aren&#039;t labelled, but who nevertheless do practice dysfunctional behaviors. And it is especially true for individuals who are labelled with &quot;schizophrenia&quot;, and who usually have been exposed to huge amounts of stress-creating dysfunctionality. Often throughout their entire childhood and adolescence. 

I&#039;d like to see to which extent Aida Husejinovic [psychologist, the author of the article] herself would be able to mobilize her cognitive abilities in a test-situation, where, during the very same testing, someone pointed a gun at her, threatening to shoot her at the first wrong answer she gave. For, this is approximarely the stress level you live with in a dysfunctional, abusive relationship.&quot;

I really wonder: how come that even psychologists, the majority, have no more professional curiosity than to simply declare complex psychological phenomena meaningless symptoms of brain diseases, and to obviously see their only task in trying to &lt;i&gt;control&lt;/i&gt; these allegedly meaningless symptoms, instead of trying to &lt;i&gt;understand&lt;/i&gt; them.

Thanks for &lt;i&gt;understanding&lt;/i&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this had me immediately recall an article about <a href="http://infolink2003.elbo.dk/PsyNyt/Forsider/pn0309.pdf" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Cognitive Remediation for Schizophrenia&#8221;</a> (original in Danish) in the journal of the Danish Psychological Association, quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Even if Emil Kraepelin already a hundred years ago became aware of the fact, that cognitive dysfunctionalities are remarkable in patients with schizophrenia, this aspect was assumed to be a side effect of the medication for a long time. Yet, newer evidence points to that cognitive dysfunctionality is a core aspect of the illness, and characteristic for most of the patients.&#8221; And: &#8220;Dysfunctionalities in concentration and memory are regarded biological markers of schizophrenia, since they are detectable long before the onset of the illness, and can be observed in family members of patients with schizophrenia.&#8221; (my translation)</p>
<p>Ah, so, &#8220;schizophrenics&#8221; are born more or less bird-brained morons. No need to further investigate, what maybe causes the cognitive dysfunctionalities: After declaring stupidity a &#8220;biomarker&#8221; of &#8220;schizophrenia&#8221;, the article goes on to present techniques for psychologists to, in spite of the stupidity, efficiently get the &#8220;Take your meds!&#8221;-message rammed into the bird-brained morons&#8217; heads. </p>
<p>Well, and no need to say, that reading such a load of bs made me blow a fuse. I do have an ego, and it tends to react somewhat sensitive to being insulted. So, I wrote <a href="http://diffthoughts.blogspot.com/2009/03/are-psychologists-really-that-stupid.html" rel="nofollow">a piece on the matter</a>, quote: </p>
<p>&#8220;It is totally and completely beyond me how a psych<i>ologist</i> can miss the point, that stress, <i>stress</i>, yeah, like in <i>trauma</i>, indeed has the capacity to reduce the stressed individual&#8217;s cognitive abilities. Dysfunctional communication and abuse create stress. And thus cognitive dysfunctionalities in addition. Which is true for <i>all</i> involved individuals, also family members, who aren&#8217;t labelled, but who nevertheless do practice dysfunctional behaviors. And it is especially true for individuals who are labelled with &#8220;schizophrenia&#8221;, and who usually have been exposed to huge amounts of stress-creating dysfunctionality. Often throughout their entire childhood and adolescence. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see to which extent Aida Husejinovic [psychologist, the author of the article] herself would be able to mobilize her cognitive abilities in a test-situation, where, during the very same testing, someone pointed a gun at her, threatening to shoot her at the first wrong answer she gave. For, this is approximarely the stress level you live with in a dysfunctional, abusive relationship.&#8221;</p>
<p>I really wonder: how come that even psychologists, the majority, have no more professional curiosity than to simply declare complex psychological phenomena meaningless symptoms of brain diseases, and to obviously see their only task in trying to <i>control</i> these allegedly meaningless symptoms, instead of trying to <i>understand</i> them.</p>
<p>Thanks for <i>understanding</i>!</p>
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